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Opinion: Silly Season Speculation - Finding Space For New Talent In MotoGP's Rider Logjam

By David Emmett | Mon, 10/Apr/2023 - 15:15

We are two races into the 2023 MotoGP season. Two races which took place under unusual circumstances – the season opener at Portimão was at a track where MotoGP had spent two days testing just a couple of weeks previously, and Argentina is a unique track where they raced in wet weather. So obviously, with the news that Toprak Razgatlioglu is to test the Yamaha MotoGP bike on Monday and Tuesday, it's time for some wild speculation about who might swap seats and who might be dumped for 2024 and beyond.

But first, a caveat. Beyond the signed contracts, this is just speculation on my part. Most of it is what I would do, based around the options on the table right now. A tiny part of it is based on drawing conclusions from talking to various people over the past year or so. Whatever you do after reading this, do not sell your belongings to bet on the outcome. Keep your money firmly in your pocket. Having said that, here we go...

What we know:

There are a few things which are set in stone, or the second best thing, set down in contracts. Contracts always have escape clauses, of course, but those are used very rarely. It is seen as an admission of failure by rider, team, or sometimes both when an escape clause is invoked. Better to sit out the extra year and invest in attracting a better rider. Contracts which are announced as one-year deals are often actually so-called one-plus-one deals, where both sides expect the renewal to be a formality, though it isn't necessarily.

When playing the game of Who Goes Where, first you have to factor in who already has a contract for next season. Of the factory MotoGP seats, 11 are already spoken for in 2024, with Franco Morbidelli the lone rider whose deal ends this season. (Hence the speculation, of course).

Next, the satellite teams: VR46 has a contract with Ducati for 2024. RNF has a contract with Aprilia for three years. Gresini's contract with Ducati is just for 2023. LCR is a long-term partner of Honda, and is used by HRC as a place to field a Japanese rider, and put a talented second rider. And Pramac and Tech3 are now de facto parts of their respective manufacturers, Ducati and Pierer Mobility Group (the parent company of KTM AG, which is why Tech3 are branded as GasGas).

Not what it seems

Finally, the satellite teams. Both RNF Aprilia riders have two-year deals, as does Alex Rins at LCR Honda. The remaining nine riders are ostensibly on one-year contracts, if my notes are correct. My notes, I should add, are based partly on press releases and official statements from teams, which tend not to tell the whole story.

For example, Pol Espargaro and Augusto Fernandez are officially on one-year contracts. Unofficially, they are likely to be on one-plus-one deals, where the contract will be automatically extended unless something disastrous happens. Augusto Fernandez, especially, should have little reason for concern. After the fiasco of Raul Fernandez and Remy Gardner in 2022 – first and second in the 2021 Moto2 championship, then out after a single year in MotoGP – KTM cannot afford to have another one-and-done rookie on the books.

Conversely, Raul Fernandez officially has a two-year contract. But after what happened to him at Tech3 last year, and the experience of the start of the 2023 season, there is every reason to believe he could be out on his ear at the end of 2023, unless his results improve.

Who goes where?

Having said all that, here's what I expect to happen, and in some cases, what I would do if I were in charge. (Fortunately for everyone involved in the sport, I'm not...).

Let's start with Franco Morbidelli's seat in the Monster Energy Yamaha team. Morbidelli did his cause a lot of good with two fourth-place finishes in Argentina. But given the unique circumstances – a very low grip track, which suits his riding style better – there is reason to be skeptical that this is a permanent return to form. Morbidelli was 14th in both races at Portimão, 19th overall at the Portimão test, and 20th overall at the Sepang test back in February.

If Termas Frankie is the real Franco Morbidelli, then he keeps his job. If Argentina was an anomaly, then he is likely out.

The case against Toprak

But who do Yamaha put on the bike if they lose Morbidelli? With Toprak Razgatlioglu testing the Yamaha M1, conventional wisdom has it that the Turkish WorldSBK star is the logical choice. Certainly from a marketing perspective, Razgatlioglu being big in the Middle East and all of Asia.

That would not fix Yamaha's problems, however. Fabio Quartararo is still Yamaha's main focus in MotoGP, and clearly their superstar rider. But Yamaha only have two bikes on the grid at the moment, and given the situation with satellite teams, they are unlikely to get any more. The Yamaha is not exactly an appealing prospect at the moment, based on the results of 2022. And rumor suggests that Yamaha are trying to get the highest possible price for their bikes from a possible satellite squad.

That leaves Yamaha with just two bikes to collect data from. Having one fast rider and one slow rider means the data from the second rider is pretty much useless. And trying to solve problems based on the data of a single rider is nigh-on impossible.

If Yamaha hire Toprak Razgatlioglu, then no matter how great his talent, he will take a while to adapt to riding a MotoGP bike and get up to speed. He will also have to adapt to the very different pace of the MotoGP paddock, and of 21 or more rounds per season instead of 12 or 13. The best case scenario for Yamaha is that Razgatlioglu is competitive in 2025, or possibly the second half of 2024.

Are you experienced?

To avoid the pitfalls of signing Razgatlioglu, there may be a better option at hand. Jorge Martin has already made his bitterness clear at Ducati choosing Enea Bastianini over him to elevate to the factory squad. Martin is very open to offers, and is clearly competitive. More importantly, he is capable of pushing hard on new tires, which is where Morbidelli is struggling.

If Martin wants to be in a factory team, and Yamaha need someone who can push hard on new tires and provide data which is useful for Fabio Quartararo in setting up the bike, they could do worse than offer Martin a contract. The Spaniard is in his third year of MotoGP, and so has plenty of experience to bring. And at 25, he is young enough to have a decent future in MotoGP.

Young guns

Alternatively, Yamaha could go poaching in KTM's backyard again. KTM have the mouthwatering prospect of Pedro Acosta waiting in the wings, but they also have a distinct lack of seats to put him on in 2024. Yamaha, on the other hand, could offer him a seat in the factory team for next year.

The benefit for Yamaha would be obvious: they get one of the hottest up-and-coming stars from Moto2, who has proven how quickly he can adapt by the speed at which he succeeded in Moto2.

If KTM can't find a MotoGP seat for Acosta, they could hope to keep him in Moto2 for another year, but Acosta is likely to regard that as a breach of the agreement he made with KTM.

There are reports that 2024 is the last year of a three-year deal KTM signed with Acosta in 2021. That deal included two years in Moto2, with the guarantee of a MotoGP seat in 2024. But KTM seats in MotoGP are thin on the ground at the moment, with the factory team full up next season and major incentives for the Tech3 GasGas line up to remain unchanged.

So perhaps Yamaha could wean Acosta away from KTM, if they were willing to pay compensation. KTM already have experience of holding a rider to his contract, when KTM CEO Stefan Pierer publicly announced that Raul Fernandez would be moving up to MotoGP with the Tech3 team in 2022. That went badly, as Fernandez was unwilling to go to Tech3, souring the relationship from the start.

Rock and a hard place

KTM face something of a dilemma with Pedro Acosta. They can try to dispose of one of their Tech3 riders, but unless Pol Espargaro decides to retire – entirely possible given the injuries he sustained in that massive crash in Portimão, and which is likely to keep him out until at least Mugello – then it will be a bad look either way. Dumping Augusto Fernandez after one year would be the third rookie they had done that to, after Remy Gardner and Raul Fernandez, and would likely scare off other riders coming through the pipeline. Ditching Pol Espargaro would be internally unpopular, and be getting rid of a wealth of experience of the KTM RC16.

If KTM hold Acosta to his contract and put him in the satellite GasGas squad when he (hypothetically) had a shot at a factory seat with Yamaha, that could annoy him enough to try to leave KTM at the end of his contract. Or if they hold him to his contract but keep him in Moto2, that might be even worse.

So their choice might end up being losing Acosta at the end of 2023, or at the end of 2024. For the sake of peace and stability inside the organization, losing the Spanish youngster at the end of 2023 might end up being the lesser of the two evils.

There is an alternative route for Acosta, of course, which also serves as a way for KTM to keep him. The Pierer Mobility Group is all in on using MotoGP to promote their street motorcycle brands, as evidenced by branding Tech3 as the GasGas team. KTM's parent company has KTM, GasGas, and Husqvarna represented in Moto3 and Moto2, but only KTM and GasGas in MotoGP. If they can find a satellite team to supply with bikes and brand them as Husqvarna, that might be an avenue to put Acosta in MotoGP.

Musical Chairs

Ducati face problems of their own, now that Marco Bezzecchi has won his first race and is leading the championship. If Bezzecchi's current form continues, the Bologna factory will have to start supplying him with the latest spec of bikes.

The easiest way to do that would be to move Bezzecchi up into the Pramac squad. If Martin were to leave for Yamaha, that might be a possibility. Zarco's position seems relatively safe, as the Frenchman has uncomplainingly tested parts and setup for the factory Ducati team on race weekends, and has shown himself capable of scoring podiums.

The alternative would be to supply the latest spec of Desmosedici to the Mooney VR46 team again, as they did last year for Luca Marini. That would impose a greater support burden on Ducati, but would keep both Bezzecchi and VR46 happy, at least until the summer of 2024 when the great factory seat reshuffle for the 2025 season can resume again.

A wildcard at Pramac is Toprak Razgatlioglu. If he can't get a seat in the Yamaha factory squad, then Ducati could do much worse than snagging the Turkish WorldSBK star and putting him into the Pramac squad. The Ducati might suit his late-braking style better as well, and be easier to get up to speed on.

LCR Honda

One final comment on who might move in MotoGP. Takaaki Nakagami is safe on the LCR Honda Idemitsu bike for as long as there isn't another Japanese (or possibly Asian) rider to replace him. While Ai Ogura is recovering from a nasty injury to his left hand, fracturing a scaphoid and damaging ligaments, Nakagami's seat is safe. But if Ogura returns to the form he showed last year, racking up three victories and finishing second in the Moto2 championship, the Japanese youngster is likely to be moved up into the LCR Honda team in place of Nakagami.

Even if Ogura doesn't move up, Nakagami could still find himself losing the LCR seat. Somkiat Chantra is another possible candidate in the LCR Honda Idemitsu team.

What happens to Nakagami if he does lose his MotoGP seat? The most logical and likely thing for Nakagami to do would be for him to become a test rider for HRC, alongside Stefan Bradl. While Bradl is still fast enough to provide useful data, his feedback still has to be translated from English to Japanese for HRC engineers.

Nakagami's feedback as a rider has been praised by those who work with him. He is fast enough to provide useful data – anyone good enough to deserve a full-time seat in MotoGP is fast enough – but more importantly, he is Japanese. He can provide direct feedback to HRC engineers, with nothing lost in translation, either in terms of language or culture. As a test rider, Nakagami could be an important stepping stone for HRC in finding a path back to success.

The real problem in the rider market

The unspoken problem with finding space for new talent in MotoGP is that to get someone in, another rider has to leave. The years of paying grid filler, when a rider was on a bike because they brought a particular amount of sponsorship to the squad, are behind us. Everyone currently in MotoGP has earned their spot. Every single one of the 22 riders lining up in MotoGP has won a grand prix in at least one of the three classes. And 13 of them have also won a world championship.

Not only are these demonstrably the best riders in the world, but they are also remarkably young. There are just 5 riders who will be over 30 by the end of the 2023 season, with Aleix Espargaro the oldest at 34. The average age of the grid is 27.5 years, or 26.2 if you exclude the five riders over 30 (Aleix Espargaro 34, Johann Zarco 33, Pol Espargaro 32, Taka Nakagami 31, and Marc Marquez 30).

That leaves 15 riders in the prime of their career, aged between 25 and 28, with Raul Fernandez (23) and Fabio Quartararo (24) the youngest on the grid. There are very few candidates looking likely to leave due to age at the end of 2023, and all of them may choose to stay on at the end of 2024. Aleix Espargaro and Johann Zarco are the most likely candidates to leave at the end of 2024, with Nakagami possibly already replaced, and Pol Espargaro facing a major decision. Marc Marquez appears to have rediscovered his inner cannibal, and shows no signs of wanting to stop until he has a few more titles under his belt.

This year's crop of under 30s will still be under 30 by the end of the 2024 season as well. The 28 year olds - Franco Morbidelli, Miguel Oliveira, Maverick Viñales, Jack Miller, and Brad Binder - will all be 29 by the end of 2024. And all of them are in good enough shape to still be competitive in 2025 and 2026.

Full employment

There is, therefore, no room at the MotoGP inn. (A common problem facing anyone trying to book accommodation at many MotoGP rounds). The riders are the best in the world, and still have plenty of life in them. There is no real reason to ditch them in favor of someone else, unless that rider is a genuine phenomenon.

There may be room for Pedro Acosta (just), and Ai Ogura (because of his specific circumstances), but beyond that, the picture is bleak for Moto2 and Moto3 riders hoping to break into MotoGP. Jake Dixon, for example, has been very good, and in any other era, would have been a shoo-in for a seat in the premier class. Fast, successful, charismatic, and with the right passport – Dorna desperately want a British rider in MotoGP, to raise the value of the broadcast rights to BT Sport – but in the current era, who would you sack to make room for him?

Dixon is not alone. On the basis of his results, Aron Canet probably deserves a seat in MotoGP. But is he a better bet than Alex Rins or Joan Mir? What about Tony Arbolino? Alonso Lopez? Fermin Aldeguer? Celestino Vietti? Izan Guevara?

MotoGP finds itself in a quandary. There is a logjam of outstanding riders in the premier class, and no reason for them not to stay. And there is a growing pile of talented riders in Moto2 wanting a shot at MotoGP, and no seats to put them on. The side route via WorldSBK is looking less viable, for much the same reason.

Having too much talent is a good problem to have. But that doesn't mean it's not a problem. Good luck to the team managers trying to figure out this particular puzzle, for 2024, but especially for 2025.

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There's still World Superbike

Buddykitchen
1 year 11 months ago
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Setting aside for a moment the purist's arguments about the difference between the production and prototype chassis, Dorna still owns the rights to both MotoGP and World Superbike.  We're starting to see examples of riders from the GP grid who are making good in Superbike (Lecuona, Gardner kinda, Vierge, not to mention the current WSBK Champion Bautista), plus riders who are arguably reaching the end of their productive careers (Redding, Rea, Sykes, Baz, and others).  So why not make better utilization of the series that's already under your control?



As it stands, there are routinely 3 guys in Superbike fighting for wins, with 2 or 3 others fighting for regular podiums.  There's plenty of room to weed out some of the backmarkers in the series (why does Hafizh Syahrin still have a job... that's a rhetorical question) and make room for riders of a caliber that can lift the whole series to a spot similar to MotoGP, one where you just never know who could be on a podium. 



From my seat in the bleachers, Superbike isn't a step down, it's a step over.  Lateral moves, not vertical ones.  In terms of horsepower, Superbikes fit very nicely between Moto2 and MotoGP.  And the racing is great.  So use it.

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In reply to There's still World Superbike by Buddykitchen

In reality WSB is a step…

Jarnosar
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In reality WSB is a step down and i think most riders would see it that way.  Especially Spanish riders (who make up a lot of the grid) and spanish media do look down on the championship.  Another problem is once you are out of the GP paddock you might get back.  

If i was Yamaha i would be doing everything to get Acosta out of his KTM contract.

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Dice, anyone?

larryt4114
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1 year 11 months ago
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Fun article, Mr. Emmett. You should revisit it later this season, maybe during the summer break, and see if your thoughts are still the same.

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This logjam of talent has me…

Joshua Melanson
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1 year 11 months ago
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This logjam of talent has me thinking once again about a series reformat where riders are under contract with dorna and compete on machines/teams on a rotating basis. Manufacturers and teams compete by having most points scored by all riders - rewarding bikes that are easiest to ride well. Riders who are adaptable will pick up results and championships using all the bikes on the grid.  You could have more riders than available bikes as well, meaning fewer races for each rider, potentially a buffer for injuries, and a place for talent. As an added bonus, no more rider contract BS or career killing delays in getting a 'good ride'.

 

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MotoGP seats

PaulM
1 year 11 months ago
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Bringing Pedro in for Pol seems an easy decision for me. Pol seems like a great guy, but he has not performed at any high level (in relative terms to MotoGP class) in years. My concern is that the value of the riders on the Ajo Moto2 bikes is being inflated by the bikes/team. Moto2 is so close that any bike advantage makes riders look a little better than they are. I think, though certainly do not know definitively, that the Ajo team has really figured something out on those bikes.

I love the Toprak to Pramac option suggestion. He is possibly the one person who could come into MotoGP and be competitive fairly quickly. Jorge M. would be crazy to leave Ducati for Yamaha, but if he really is frustrated with decision last year to leave him at Pramac, then why not try something new. Yamaha will get the bike sorted. 

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In reply to MotoGP seats by PaulM

I wouldn't doubt the rider…

WaveyD1974
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1 year 11 months ago
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I wouldn't doubt the rider talent in Moto2. Zarco, Franco, Peco, A Marquez, Enea, Oliveira, Binder, Martin, Marini and Bez. There's not been many failures after promotion in recent years. Remy had it rotten as did Raul, Luthi too. Taka hasn't had it much worse than the other Honda riders bar Marc. Alex is looking like a new rider now he's off the Honda. DiGi showing good speed. 

I think Ajo has the pick of the available riders. Success attracts talent which brings success which attracts etc. The start point being a well run team but If the young Marc Marquez jumped on the MV for this season...Ajo loses.  

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David, Rumors have been on…

3B43
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1 year 11 months ago
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David, Rumors have been on the 'net, since the start of the year, of Marc's displeasure with HRC. Now, it appears the displeasure is even worse, due to some postings of the Kalex frame, Alex trying his chassis AND a possible clause in his contract about leaving for another team after this year. Any truth to any of this, or is just folks 'stirring the s@$t'?

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In reply to David, Rumors have been on… by 3B43

No secret that Marc is…

David Emmett
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No secret that Marc is unhappy with the progress HRC have (not) made. Not privy to the details of his contract, but if he wants to leave he can afford to leave. I think he is waiting to try the Kalex chassis for himself. The frame being posted on the web will make zero difference to him. It's how it feels and works that matters.

Marquez is the wildcard in silly season. If he wants to move, contracts get broken open.

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In reply to No secret that Marc is… by David Emmett

But where would Marc go? I…

scottyreg
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1 year 11 months ago
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But where would Marc go? I couldn’t see him going to Yamaha given they’re in as bad a situation as Honda. So wouldn’t he have to also pay even more to get someone else out of their contract? (e.g. Aleix at Aprilia)

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KTM, given the Red Bull…

David Emmett
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1 year 11 months ago
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KTM, given the Red Bull association. Ducati have said they have plenty of young talent and don't need to pay the big bucks for Marc. Wonder if they would still say that if he came knocking.

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In reply to KTM, given the Red Bull… by David Emmett

Hi David. Any reliable info…

spongedaddy
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1 year 11 months ago
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Hi David.

Any reliable info leaking through about the times Razgatlioglu set today?

Thank you

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In reply to KTM, given the Red Bull… by David Emmett

So KTM would ditch Miller…

scottyreg
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1 year 11 months ago
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So KTM would ditch Miller after only a few races? Or move him down to GasGas and ditch Pol/Fernandez?

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KTM would find a way to put…

David Emmett
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KTM would find a way to put Marquez in there somewhere. There has been talk of a Husqvarna team, and that would allow for some reshuffling

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In reply to KTM, given the Red Bull… by David Emmett

Marc is on the Rossi glide path

slfish
1 year 11 months ago
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Given the choice between by all accounts the next generational talent in Pedro Acosta, and angry, often injured, peculiar riding style that no-one else can mimic (meaning a bike that no one else can ride), and most likely to disrupt team dynamics old Marquez, why would KTM want to mortgage its future on a year or two with Marc before he wrecks himself again and is forced to retire. Marc is on the Rossi glide path - still fast, but over riding to keep up with guys much younger and equally talented. He's not going to dominate on any bike like he used too, and that's going to keep pissing him off, and make him very hard to deal with because he doesn't want to see it. Not someone I'd want in my team.

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In reply to Marc is on the Rossi glide path by slfish

Hahahaha😂😂😂 Other riders…

Dieterly
1 year 11 months ago
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Hahahaha😂😂😂 Other riders equally talented as Marc… Good one, you really made me laugh😂😂😂

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In reply to Marc is on the Rossi glide path by slfish

I noticed at Portimao no…

WaveyD1974
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I noticed at Portimao no other Honda rider came close. No other Honda rider in Q2 so at least 13 places back on the grid, can't remember...Mir 13th ? Ten place closer the win in the sprint race than the next Honda rider. Maybe the 'over riding' was paying off until one step too far on Sunday. The equality of talent on the grid is always up for discusion but I wouldn't put Rins and Mir too far from the top. 

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In reply to But where would Marc go? I… by scottyreg

Fernandez out with an Acosta…

D999
1 year 11 months ago
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Fernandez out with an Acosta/KTM sign and trade to HRC for Marc, with cash smoothing out the details. Dorna and their new CCP media mogul chasing social media engagement? Another Marquez super-team at Gresini with full blown factory support. Ducati (just as keen) to win it all in Gresini colours if momentum looks favourable - fairy tale for Fausto and all that. That will get tongues, fingers and thumbs flapping & tapping 24/7. There is already more long-form media popping up than usual, so jump onboard and ride the gravy train.



Side note - Toprak - better than a healthy Elbows Spies when it's all said and done?

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In reply to David, Rumors have been on… by 3B43

Cannibal to the Duc

Kailas
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1 year 11 months ago
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I have had fantasies about Marc moving to Ducati using an escape clause. His displeasure with Honda is evident and looks to me like Marc would be the kind of person to use an escape clause because, well, he is Marc. And if he does go to Ducati, then there's absolutely no reason why they shouldn't be taking him in, unless they want to avoid a Rossi-Lorenzo-esque situation in the garage. That's the ONLY thing I see could be a factor that works against it. And man o man if it happens, I would expect 3 more championships from him. Decimating the field. "Release of the inner cannibal". Loved that from David. 

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Yes, but

St. Stephen
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1 year 11 months ago
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Thanks for putting your thoughts down on digital paper David, you have made me think.

1. I believe you are getting ahead of yourself re Bez. As you point out, these were two special races under unique conditions. Have to wait for Jerez (as you have said many times over the years) to start thinking about Ducati providing him with the latest spec. (Also, I believe Marini will finish ahead of him in the championship).

2. "Marc Marquez appears to have rediscovered his inner cannibal." You paid for my subscription right there. Thanks!

3. Fabio is the 2nd youngest rider on the grid! Who knew? (not me, obviously, feels like I've been watching him race forever)

 

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If Pedro Acosta wins the…

Kingchin3
1 year 11 months ago
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If Pedro Acosta wins the Moto2 championship this season, which he will barring a bad injury he will definitely be in the Motogp Premier Class for 2024. All depends on how the KTM bike performs at the more normal grippier European rounds Jerez, Le Mans etc. Acosta isn't going to want to join GasGas replacing Augusto Fernandez if the KTM bike still hasn't solved it's poor qualifying pace woes from last season.

Replacing Giannantonio at Gresini on a Ducati contract would be the logical smart alternative. I'm sure Ducati would even give Acosta a latest spec bike if he really wanted it. As Acosta is the best young natural talent since Marc Marquez in 2013.

Speaking of Marc Marquez if he does actually have a loophole escape clause out of his Honda contract then Gresini as well would be the logical option for him 2024. Joining his brother Alex and writing it in his contract to be automatically moved to the factory Ducati team in 2025 if he wins the 2024 Motogp championship with Gresini. 

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Extra Team

Tombu
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1 year 11 months ago
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Is adding another team an option?

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In reply to Extra Team by Tombu

That would be one solution…

Richard
1 year 11 months ago
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That would be one solution to getting new talent into MotoGP. Yamaha needs to step up and support at least one customer team. Of course they probably need to get the bike fixed before anybody will be willing to buy it  ;)

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I had a conversation a…

Jarnosar
1 year 11 months ago
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I had a conversation a couple of weeks ago about Husqvarna similar to your idea.  Except i had MM going into his own team (on Husqvarna/ktm), although KTM would want him on an official KTM.  Think its possible they have MM in the factory team (KTM) and move Miller to a factory Husqvarna.   

Whatever we say about how good the KTM's are or not, theres no doubting their ambition to get bikes on the grid.  Yamaha NEED to get another 2 bikes out there but what team/sponsors want Yamahas?  All this talk of Rossis VR46 switching to Yamahas, don't see Rossi upsetting his riders or more importantly sponsors by switching to lesser bikes 

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Why not give another team 2…

Mr645
1 year 11 months ago
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Why not give another team 2 grid spots?  Give Yamaha a satellite team. More bikes, more riders, more fans

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24, 26, 28 bikes on the grid.

jbond
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We need at least another 2 places on the grid. Yamaha really should have a secondary team to bring it up to 24. But that has to paid for. What are the chances of taking it up to 26? Could Honda afford 6 bikes on the grid? How about KTM, is there really the money for a Husquarna team? If both Honda and KTM ran 6 bikes could the formula cope with 28 bikes? Is there *any* chance of another manufacturer: real not re-badged ?



If we do get to 26 bikes could we switch MotoGP Q1-Q2 to 12+3 instead of 10+2? Would 15 bikes in Q2 be too dangerous? 



Some time soon we really need to have a discussion about the new weekend timetable. No warm up for Moto2/3 on Sunday seems like a major safety issue. Especially if we have another dry Fri/Sat and then a wet Sunday.

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Gods with clay feet

Seven4nineR
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1 year 11 months ago
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Wow, it seems incredible, but here we are discussing Honda losing a once in a generation rider because of a consistent  and persistent inability to build a competitive motorcycle.  



The bringers of pneumatic valves and seamless gearboxes to motogp….they created “the Honda lane” fer chrissakes. Now struggling to build a swingarm.

Marc is surely driven by history, it’s hard to see why he would stay when, at 30, the ticking of the clock must be deafening.

Yamaha, without a satellite team to provide for, might just find enough shekels down the back of the corporate sofa to tempt him. He doesn’t need the best bike, he just needs better.

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Yamaha Could Be The MM Bike.

Chuckracer
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1 year 11 months ago
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The bike doesn’t look slow (an observation based on two whole races), Fabio over rides it on a regular basis and survives, and Boy Howdy would THAT raise Yamaha’s profile, as well as Marc’s.  If he loses on the Ducati…well he’s done then. I can’t see him gambling his last gasp future dreams on either Aprilia or KTM.

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