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More Than Just a PR Stunt - Interview with CFMOTO’s Director of Racing Development

By Li Lin | Thu, 25/Jul/2024 - 21:07

At CFMOTO’s marketing event CFMOTO Day - Racing Man, I interviewed CFMOTO’s Director of Racing Development Mr. SU Zhen (苏臻) who has been part of CFMOTO’s World Championship effort since its genesis. Let’s see how CFMOTO got involved in the World Championship and their future plans.

Q: CFMOTO entered Moto3 in the 2022 season. When was the decision made within the company? How was the racing department put together?

SZ: Our CEO Mr. LAI Minjie (赖民杰) has had the dream of entering the World Championship forever. You saw that Mini with a ‘Moto3’ license plate at Zhejiang Karting Track during CFMOTO Talent Trophy. He got that plate way before we had a team. He wants a Chinese brand on the World Championship grid. Initially, my boss Ms LIU Xiaofang (刘晓芳) was working on the prep work alone. I was a member of the PR department at the time, which was also overseen by Ms. Liu. I’ve always loved motorsport. I’ve also studied in Italy. It was relatively easy for me to fit in into a paddock filled with Spaniards and Italians. So Ms. Liu invited me to the project. Actually, until about halfway through the 2022 season, it was only Ms. Liu and me on the project. Then gradually we invited more colleagues within CFMOTO who were passionate about motorsport to join us. We also hired external experts, for example, ex-racers to help us test the bike and help with R&D.

Q: What was some of the key prep work before the first season started?

SZ: Firstly, we needed to decide in what role we would enter, and in what classes we would participate. We had different plans laid out. Secondly, we needed to find a way to get in touch with Dorna and find a team. We have to thank KTM for this. Our joint venture with KTM wasn’t just about manufacturing and sales. We also collaborate in many technical areas. We’ve always had a great relationship, and they helped a lot in introducing us to PrüstelGP and the management of Dorna. Thirdly, we needed to apply to be a constructor in the championship. We worked with KTM together on the chassis. We needed to prove to Dorna how we contributed technically to enter as a constructor.

Q: The great result this year is a continuation of the Aspar team’s track record. How did this collaboration come about?

SZ: When we first entered the championship, we were really prepared for the worst result. We didn’t think we would be able to get in the top five in the first three years. Our results with PrüstelGP have seriously exceeded our expectations. We had a podium in our first-ever season with Carlos Tatay. We had another two last season. But we always felt like these results came from good luck. In the two years, we saw the difference between teams in the paddock - their efficiency, how their riders behave, how the team work together. CFMOTO always strives to be better. Our ambition would grow. We want to learn more about team operation, bike set-up, etc. Then came our opportunity. The collaboration between Aspar and GasGas was coming to an end and KTM notified us. Jorge himself is a MotoGP Legend, this sport is his life’s work. His resources could take us to a whole different level. They have their own circuit, their own riders’ academy, their own technicians’ school. These are all aligned with what we want - building a Chinese bike and a Chinese team. Of course, our time with PrüstelGP was great, it was difficult to part with them when they decided to pull from Moto3.

Q: How do CFMOTO Racing and the Aspar team work together? Would any other member in your department go trackside besides you and Ms. Liu?

SZ: Our colleagues don’t have that much experience in motorsport, so they don’t come trackside during a race weekend that often. Our R&D team work closely with the Aspar team during development and post-race. The Aspar team share their data with us. We have an R&D center in Italy with a testing team, who can work on the data provided by the Aspar team. They’ll work on our bike, and later also use that experience on our production bike. You’ve all seen the outcome - our SR production bikes - at our opening ceremony of CFMOTO Day. Our objective is very clear - MotoGP isn’t just a PR stunt for us, we want to actually learn the technical side of motorsport.

Q: As you mentioned, the results you achieved with PrüstelGP exceeded your expectations. Now working with a team like Aspar, is David Alonso’s dominance this season any surprise at all?

SZ: We knew David would do quite well, but we didn’t anticipate 6 wins in 9 races. To be honest, we had three podiums before, but that win in Qatar was truly different. Mr. Lai was at Lusail International Circuit that weekend as well.

Q: During the opening ceremony on CFMOTO Day, we saw that video revealing a V4 engine. Your official press release said it’s meant for WSBK. Could you share with us how that project is going?

SZ: We’ve mostly locked down on the design. It’s going well. Of course, we still need to do a lot of testing. This is very challenging work. We don’t know when we will be ready to enter the championship yet. As to who we enter with, we of course discussed with Jorge, but he said at his age now, it might be too much to enter as a team. He’s happy to provide support in R&D and testing. We definitely want to work with a competent team with a lot of experience, especially on the technical side. We want to be competitive quickly. We don’t want to simply put together a Chinese team with our new bike. It’ll be very difficult at the beginning. Since we are here representing a Chinese brand, we definitely want to bring home good results. We shouldn't get ahead of ourselves.

Q: One of the key events on CFMOTO Day is the second edition of CFMOTO Talent Trophy. How do you support your signed riders financially around training in Europe? How were the five new candidates pre-screened?

SZ: The riders we signed into our program will get everything related to the training provided, which includes the bikes, coaches, circuits, crew, parts, etc. Then their family will pay the travel expenses to Europe out of pocket. We don’t just provide short-term training sessions in Europe. After all, it is very expensive for the families to travel there. We also organize training in China, and hire coaches to come to China and train our riders. For example, Joel Kelso who used to ride for us is one of our coaches. Of course, training in Europe would have a much different outcome. A lot of it is down to who you train with. In Spain, a lot of times you train together with Moto3, Moto2, or even MotoGP riders. So we have to bring the riders to Spain at least once. Our rider Eddie SUN Shengbo who resides in Spain participated in the first edition of CFMOTO Talent Trophy last October. He was good but there wasn’t a big gap between him and the other riders. When we went to Spain in May this year and trained with him, he was leading by a huge gap. He was at a completely different level already. For this edition, we did receive many applications. But we couldn’t organize a pre-selection event. So we gathered a lot of data from the applicants’ past races and training, comparing their lap time at the same circuit on the same bike. This talent program is completely new in China, no other manufacturers have done it. Now with our collaboration with Aspar, we have the path from JuniorGP to Moto2 ready. If there is a Chinese young rider who has the ability to be competitive in JuniorGP, we will have a seat for them.

Li Lin is Editor-in-Chief of Paddock Sorority, a bilingual Chinese/English media outlet dedicated to women in motorsport. You can find her on Twitter at @PaddockSorority.


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Reminds me of Mahindra

nickridiculous
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7 months 3 weeks ago
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And while we're listing quitters:

Suzuki

Kawasaki

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A unique constructor... So…

WaveyD1974
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7 months 3 weeks ago
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A unique constructor...

So last year I guess Kalex could have run Hondas but as a unique constructor. Maybe Brembo can pick and choose year by year. 

I sincerely hope they go on to field their own bikes but currently....it's a KTM RC250GP just like the GasGas and Husqvarna. 

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Copy, develop, win.

motomann
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7 months 3 weeks ago
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Is a classic Chinese strategy. The first serious bike will be a KTM copy. The next one an evolution and the third will be expected to win as a full Chinese design and construction. The 5-year plan.

The big question is whether they can develop a Chinese rider. Japan has found that a tough ask. Champions are selfish ( and media friendly in some way). Without a motor sport culture and years/ decades of evolution success is very doubtful. There has to be a first though.

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In reply to Copy, develop, win. by motomann

There's hope out there. Knew…

WaveyD1974
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7 months 3 weeks ago
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There's hope out there. Knew a few bike nuts. One, to remain a nameless wonder, would remove his plates so he could circumvent Shanghai traffic regs. Not getting nicked involved staying 'very mobile'. Went well until he dropped it in front of a parked up police car one day. Just the right sort. Doubtful they'll ever support his type though. 

It's more of a PM AG strategy.

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In reply to Copy, develop, win. by motomann

Agreed

cmf
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7 months 3 weeks ago
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re:  Technology, it's one thing to attempt to reverse engineer, another to come up with winning technology on your own.  If we look at Ducati, it took them almost a decade of continuous effort.

Maybe with the rules changes in 2027? A clean sheet design?

re: Riders. With due respect, I don't think the Chinese have what it takes as a culture. Japan has the samurai culture, plus the motorcycling infrastructure, and they haven't been able to produce a Champion in the Top Class. Just sayin'.

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...and Spain has siesta ? In…

WaveyD1974
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7 months 3 weeks ago
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...and Spain has siesta ? In some respect they do miss the culture. What they miss is having sports bikes around for years upon years. They were or maybe still are, not sure, banned in many provinces. The UK has a looooong tradition of producing top class champions....well it's long ago anyway. Spain is, by comparison, a newbie. Shifts with time. Honda or Yamaha not winning a single race ?...wtf

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In reply to ...and Spain has siesta ? In… by WaveyD1974

China and moto riders, going…

Motoshrink
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7 months 3 weeks ago
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China and moto riders, going to think on this. I think they HAVE had a huge populace with smaller displacement motos for transpo, haven't they? They are crafty and like to race things, even water buffalo maybe.

Brief article on motobikes in China, I liked it.

:)

https://www.theworldofchinese.com/2021/02/ride-or-die/

The electric bikes/motos seem the booming swell in China. Gas powered motos are nearly excluded from large city centers. But E-motos are all classed as bicycles. Their E-motos are getting QUITE good and popular (I bought a dirt one, it is nice quality a quite fun). China is coming on two wheels, just around a few corners.

https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1013056

 

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Taiwanese? Ok, some of it is…

Motoshrink
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Taiwanese? Ok, some of it is good, and they are making "Japanese" replacement parts.

Chinese? Nope. Terrible down to metal quality able to be normally torqued without stripping. 

Then, electric comes in. The good batteries, heretofore, come from S.Korea. I recently bought a Chinese E-moto but was sure that my huge essential battery came from you know where. 

Waiting to believe otherwise. The Chinese Honda rip off bikes are crap. Right now we have our very first Chinese bike racing on the World's stage in World Supersport. They took a CBR650"RR" but pushed the displacement out to 800cc on an inline 4. And, it sucks. Blue flag special out hoping to be on pace enough to be able to participate. 

Having sponsored a team to get their CF Moto on the side of a "real bike" is all they can currently do, and we wait. For E-bikes in about 6-7 years. Your grandchildren may need to speak Mandarin for their resume?


Looking fwd to vintage livery in Britain next weekend!

:)

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End badge engineering.

Ppparkinson9
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7 months 3 weeks ago
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If you want to enter, build your own bike. Got annoyed with this silliness back in the Aprilia /Gilera/Derbi 250 days.

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It's just about brand…

WaveyD1974
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7 months 3 weeks ago
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It's just about brand exposure. The crazy thing is the unique constructor part. Some deal done with Dorna. It's just about image. All very PM AG. 

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In reply to It's just about brand… by WaveyD1974

OK idk,

Moto Mondo
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7 months 3 weeks ago
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wtf PM AG?

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In reply to OK idk, by Moto Mondo

Police multicultural advisory group

Apical
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7 months 3 weeks ago
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Police multicultural advisory group. A group set up to liaise with people. The pretence is that they will take some notice of the feedback from these people.

Could be Pierer mobility Austria group? Pissed myself again.

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In reply to Police multicultural advisory group by Apical

I'm sorry. Cba writing…

WaveyD1974
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7 months 3 weeks ago
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I'm sorry. Cba writing Pierer Mobility AG. AG or Aktiengesellschaft is the company type or whatever the proper term is.

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In reply to I'm sorry. Cba writing… by WaveyD1974

CBA

stefank
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7 months 3 weeks ago
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Commercial Bank of Australia? (sorry, can't help myself)

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In reply to CBA by stefank

:)

Motoshrink
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7 months 3 weeks ago
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Confusing Buncha Abbreviations

(Warmth sent your way Wavey!)

:)

In my field we have a gazillion too. Even common  words go to just a capital letter then an x...Bx (behavior) that is handy if you have Hx (history) with it. We share some of the old math greek ones too.


ALMOST there to the British GP, and the cool vintage liveries!

Honda is revealing their post Repsol main sponsor, Prozac. Riders would be contractually required to be seen taking it on the podium like the energy drink bottles but, umm, why bother? Just relax and enjoy the pretty blue flags.

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Honda is revealing their post Repsol main sponsor, Prozac.

larryt4114
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7 months 3 weeks ago
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That was mean, but quite funny, lol. 

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In reply to :) by Motoshrink

CBA -> Cost to Benefit…

WaveyD1974
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CBA -> Cost to Benefit Analysis. It cost seconds and there's never a return. 

Thank the heavens the racing is back this weekend. 

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