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Davide Tardozzi And The Pit Lane Spy

By David Emmett | Tue, 27/Aug/2024 - 11:23

After the Austrian GP at the Red Bull Ring in Spielberg, a video emerged on social media of Ducati team boss Davide Tardozzi in an altercation with a person dressed in Aprilia teamwear in the pit lane, just before the pit lane walk for fans. In it, Tardozzi could be seen getting up close to the presumed Aprilia staffer and lecturing him forcefully. 

A day or so later, we found out what had enraged Tardozzi so much. Another video emerged of the suspected Aprilia staffer using a tablet to either film or scan the rear of the Ducati GP23 parked outside the Pertamina Enduro VR46 garage.

Speaking to German language publication Speedweek, Davide Tardozzi explained what he was doing, and why he reacted so strongly. The suspected Aprilia staffer had been up and down pit lane scanning other bikes as well, including the Ducati GP24s of Pramac and the Monster Energy Yamaha bikes.

It was not just the filming, however. The presumed Aprilia staffer had been filming within 10cm of the bikes, Tardozzi claimed, and scanning the tails very closely. The objective was clearly to get the bikes in as much detail as possible. And Tardozzi claimed that the bikes were being scanned, and not just filmed. "One of our guys was directly behind him," Tardozzi told Speedweek. "So we have a video of his iPad screen. That's how we know that he was scanning the bikes with a program."

The other reason Tardozzi was so angry was because of the moment it was happening. The bikes had all been put out for a fan pit walk, as you can tell from the blue tape visible in the first video. This was a blatant violation of etiquette, at the very least. It may also be related to the fact that Aprilia were testing new tail wings on the Trackhouse bikes in Austria.

Miguel Oliveira with tail wings on his Trackhouse Aprilia RS-GP

Aprilia claimed not to know anything about the occurrence. Tardozzi told Speedweek that he had spoken to Romano Albesiano about the man in Aprilia teamwear scanning the bikes, and Albesiano had told Tardozzi that he had not known anything about what the suspected Aprilia staffer was doing, and had been angry about what had happened. Aprilia had apologized, Tardozzi said. "But it isn't fair."

Tardozzi said he told the presumed Aprilia staffer that "he was doing something which is not allowed."  But is this correct? It was, as I said, certainly a breach of etiquette, and a breach of trust. When the teams put the bikes out in pit lane for the fan walk, there is an unspoken truce that teams will not blatantly photograph each other's bikes.

That doesn't mean they don't get photographed. I am aware of at least three factories that have photographers taking pictures of the bikes, including during the fan pit lane walk. They are at least discrete about it, also to avoid any appearance of impropriety, if not the fact of it.

That isn't the only time photographers (official and unofficial) are looking for pictures of rival manufacturers' bikes. It is common to take photos while the bikes are being warmed up in pit lane in the morning and evening, and just before a session starts. There are also bikes put out in pit lane during the sighting lap and grid procedure, ready to go in case of a mechanical issue. And the garages are open during all of the official practice sessions, though photographers are reminded to stay outside of the garage, on the correct side of the line which marks pit lane.

Even during these moments, when photographers have every right to be taking pictures, team staff can get very annoyed at anyone trying to take a photo. Every photographer seems to have a picture of Davide Tardozzi's hands waving in front of their cameras, and I have been shouted at my mechanics and engineers of just about every MotoGP manufacturer.

KTM is something of an exception here. The RC16 is frequently photographed without the fairings on, as the mechanics have been told they do not need to worry too much about working behind the privacy screens the other factories put up whenever they take the fairings off. 

That is the advantage of using a unique technology. Photos of the RC16's chassis were of little use to other factories when KTM were building frames using 3D printed steel tubes, and now they have switched to carbon fiber (the only manufacturer to do so), such photos are also pretty much impossible to interpret. Rigidity and flexibility are not obviously apparent, nor obviously related to the size and shape of the chassis parts visible from outside. The magic is in the layup, and the thickness of layers, which you can only work out using destructive testing or X-ray analysis. So far, no one has managed to smuggle an X-ray scanner into pit lane.

 

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Everyone knows

funsize
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6 months 3 weeks ago
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..the espionage obviously goes on but I have to say, having seen the video, the Aprilia guy was incredibly blatant, totally taking the piss!

My mate was driving the van collecting crashed bikes at the 1991 GP at Donington. Lawson had a biggie in morning warm-up, outside of Craner Curves, barrel-rolled for ages. Anyway he picked the bike-and associated debris up and put it all in the vehicle. He’d barely got around Goddards when every Cagiva techie stopped the van, heist style, not letting it move until they’d swarmed into the van, covered everything up and carried it around the back of the garages, through the paddock to the sanctuary of the trucks. 

Was there any suggestion of Yamaha (allegedly) helping them out -supposedly the Japanese factories very much wanted them in there and fought to stop them leaving- I guess we’ll never know. Or will we?!

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Sure

rdrgyn@hotmail.com
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6 months 3 weeks ago
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I find it quite hard to believe Romano Albesiano knew nothing about it. Just a random tech walking about with a scanning app on a tablet. They probably sent him out to take one for the team. You're going to get a lot of heat, but just go do it and I'll deal with Tardozzi.

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Tardozzi

Brian
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6 months 3 weeks ago
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A blatant violation of ethics - Aprilia desperate. But laying hands on is a bit much.

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I don’t see him laying a…

Matonge
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6 months 3 weeks ago
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I don’t see him laying a hand on him ?

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In reply to I don’t see him laying a… by Matonge

I Saw It

Brian
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6 months 3 weeks ago
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I saw him push the guy's shoulder to hinder/impede his progress. Maybe you should look again. 

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No need to. I did look this…

Matonge
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6 months 3 weeks ago
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No need to.

I did look this up though:

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/lay-a-hand-on#

So no, he did not lay a hand on him.

But hey, maybe, just maybe, they’ll hand all Ducati riders a 3 place grid penalty for Davide calling out this blatant unsportsmanlike behavior.

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In reply to No need to. I did look this… by Matonge

None

Brian
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6 months 3 weeks ago
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None so blind as those who will not see. Just about 4 seconds into the video Tardozzi clearly pushes his shoulder. You cannot miss it unless you want to.

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Oh no, just to be cristal…

Matonge
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6 months 3 weeks ago
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Oh no, just to be cristal clear, I absolutely do see him stopping the guy in his tracks by touching him in the shoulder area. As I would have done if the dude tried to keep on walking by as if nothing happened. But he didn’t man handle him. I would certainly not call it laying a hand on him as that means something quite different. Don’t try and make it into something it is not, we’ve got enough shabby online media that are all to keen for that kinda stuff.

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In reply to Oh no, just to be cristal… by Matonge

Where

Brian
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6 months 3 weeks ago
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Where I'm from if you put that hand on my shoulder I would be putting fists to your face. I admire the Aprilia guy's restraint. I would not have been as restrained in that situation. When you touch me you'd better be smiling else you force me to defend myself. That's how I see it.

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In reply to Where by Brian

Really?

Morgs
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6 months 3 weeks ago
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With agro attitude and behaviours like that, sounds like a good place to avoid. 

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In reply to Really? by Morgs

No

Brian
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6 months 3 weeks ago
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No attitude whatsoever, simple reasonable behavior. When someone puts their hands on me I can't know their intent except by their emotional state. When they are angry I will defend myself. WTF is so hard to understand? Do you live in a gate community and never leave? Do you regularly go around putting your hands on people? Idk what kind of world you live in but I'm in the real world. It's not all marshmallows and lollipops from what I've seen. Take care.

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Our Olympic women's soccer…

GSP
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6 months 3 weeks ago
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Our Olympic women's soccer team got busted for filming other teams' practices with drones and the penalty was severe. 

This "etiquette" breach may be the thin edge of the wedge. It will be interesting to see how this develops. "Don't fall behind on your cheating". 

 

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In reply to Our Olympic women's soccer… by GSP

Yawn

Brian
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6 months 3 weeks ago
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If you're not cheating you're not trying. Couldn't care less. 

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Marc,

Moto Mondo
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6 months 3 weeks ago
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is that you? What have you done to Brian?

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New Patreon Tier

nickridiculous
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6 months 3 weeks ago
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Idea: Create a "lead underpants" patreon tier, to fund the purchase of a portable x-ray machine (and PPE)

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Can't think of a worse…

WaveyD1974
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6 months 3 weeks ago
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Can't think of a worse camera than an ipad.

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In reply to Can't think of a worse… by WaveyD1974

Can't think of a smaller…

gzla
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Can't think of a smaller scanner than an ipad (ok, take an iphone).

The article mentions "scanning", and this is serious stuff. The tiny apple devices feature lidar scanners.
In addition to video data there is depth information sampled. In software all this data is combined to a 3d-point cloud. You get an quite accurate 3d representation on screen. Print this data in 3d and you have the equivalence of a plaster cast.

 

 

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Ducati museum

ehtikhet
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6 months 3 weeks ago
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Why not travel to Bologna and have a good look at pecco’s championship winning bike? He was filming Bezz’ GP23 right? 
Besides, Ducati are obviously cheating, we just can’t figure out how right? /s

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Smart

UZWEEM
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6 months 3 weeks ago
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At least he was smart enough not to waste his time filming the Hondas! ;-)

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Honda probably has a naked…

GSP
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6 months 3 weeks ago
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Honda probably has a naked RCV in the hospitality tent--still no takers. 

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In reply to Honda probably has a naked… by GSP

lol!

UZWEEM
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6 months 3 weeks ago
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:-)

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Aprilia just fired the guy…

Motoshrink
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6 months 3 weeks ago
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Aprilia just fired the guy. He was a contractor there on his own, and didn't work in that dept even. Black brass was mad too.

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Is this Crash?

stumo
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6 months 3 weeks ago
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Wow, for a minute i thought i was reading Crash comments.... 

 

It's a great pity the nice vibe is being  eroded by a few.

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