In the second half of the Ducati Lenovo MotoGP team presentation, the host, Barbara Pedrotti, asked Ducati test rider Michele Pirro how he would sum up the Bologna factory's 2025 MotoGP project in a single word. Pirro chose the phrase "Dream Team", which prompted Pedrotti to give him a pass for ignoring the set criteria as, she said, he had said the phrase quickly enough for it to be a single word.
In the context of MotoGP in 2025, the pairing of Pecco Bagnaia and Marc Márquez certainly qualifies as a dream team. The rider who finally brought the riders championship back to Ducati after 15 years, then followed it up with another and came close to making it three in a row, paired with the greatest rider of his generation, and possibly of all time. As team manager Davide Tardozzi pointed out, they have 11 titles between them.
There have been quite a few dream team pairings over the past couple of decades. Marc Márquez and Jorge Lorenzo in 2019. Dani Pedrosa and Marc Márquez in 2013. Valentino Rossi and Jorge Lorenzo in 2008, and again in 2013. Dani Pedrosa and Casey Stoner in 2011. They have generally proved to be a mixed blessing. Jorge Lorenzo retired at the end of 2019, Marc Márquez took his own teammate out at Aragon in 2013, Valentino Rossi had a wall installed in the Yamaha garage in 2008, and the less said about 2015 the better.
The biggest problem is, unsurprisingly, managing egos. That is an issue in most teams, of course, but realistically, it is very rare for a team to have two riders who know they can win the championship. Every rider goes into a season believing they can win, but only a select few know they can do it.
So managing Pecco Bagnaia and Marc Márquez is not going to be easy. In a demonstration of the Streisand Effect, the one word summing up 2025 Ducati's Sporting Director Mauro Grassilli gave to Barbara Pedrotti was "harmony". A peculiar word to invoke in any situation where harmony is a given. If you need to bring it up...
Both Bagnaia and Márquez are professional enough to handle any friction. And there will be friction. But Bagnaia will not be steamrollered by Márquez, as the six-time MotoGP champion has done with previous teammates. He has form for standing up to him. In the latest recap of the 2024 MotoGP season on the Dorna website, the "There can be only one" series, they finally show the footage recorded outside Race Direction after their collision in the first race of 2024 at Portimão, Márquez attempts to give Bagnaia a dressing down. Bagnaia coolly stands his ground, and rejects Márquez' accusations. These two are a match for one another in terms of strength of will.
The incident is gone, but not forgotten. In a lighthearted but pointed comment when discussing the clash in the double interview Ducati released with Bagnaia and Márquez hosted by Gavin Emmett, Bagnaia pointed out that the crash in Portimão might have cost him the championship. "Look at this race, I was finishing fifth. So 11 points and I win the title," Bagnaia said, smiling. The pair laughed and pointed, Márquez holding up his hand and saying "sorry!"
A little joke. A lighthearted moment. But one filled with subtext. Neither Pecco Bagnaia nor Marc Márquez will give each other any quarter.
But they also understand their best hope of success lies in working together to make the Ducati Desmosedici GP25 as good as possible. If they do that during testing, and can thereby eliminate the competition, they can then focus on beating one another. Both are experienced, calculating, and ambitious. A formidable combination.
They also both know about the importance of a good teammate. "For me, the teammate I learned most from was Dani Pedrosa," Márquez told the press conference after the presentation. "That was a master class every session. Especially when you arrive in MotoGP and you have a teammate like Dani Pedrosa. It was amazing to understand. There I learned a lot."
For Bagnaia, two teammates really stood out. "The first time I understood something was in Moto3, when Jorge Martin arrived and the first test was wet and he was so fast, and following him I learned a lot of things in the wet. Then absolutely in MotoGP we have to speak about Jack Miller, that together we did an incredible job in terms of atmosphere inside the box, inside the garage. I think we both did an amazing job to create what Ducati is right now."
And they are both already learning from one another. "I arrive in a box where there is a rider who won 2 world championships, who is super fast, who only rode a Ducati, so he knows very well how to fix every problem," Márquez said. "And as we see, many times on Friday, Pecco is behind, but then from one practice to another, he's the fastest rider on the race track. So I will try to learn from him, because he has a lot of experience with a Ducati bike."
Bagnaia has already been studying how Márquez rides since the Spaniard arrived at Gresini in 2024. "It's absolutely a new thing, because we start in a month, but already from last year I tried to learn his left corners, that are not easy. But I think that during the season I improved a bit and I will continue doing it."
The more important lesson for Bagnaia is seeing how Márquez handles difficulties. "What I think and I know that with a rider like him, a champion like him with 8 titles, and winning the title also in difficult situations, not having the best bike. It's absolutely a motivation for me. Trying also to learn to be competitive as it is when the things are not ideal."
This is where Bagnaia lost the championship in 2024, by making unforced errors when there was no need. That had tormented Bagnaia over the winter, and he had thrown himself into trying to learn from his mistakes and ensure it doesn't happen again. "I spent hours analyzing and rewatching many times my mistakes and my worst races from last year," the two-time MotoGP champion said. "And the first thing is that, it's true that I want always to arrive as far in front as I can, as is possible. But I understood that sometimes it's better just to wait a bit."
A MotoGP title isn't won in a single weekend, Bagnaia explained. "Because the championship is long. It's true that you can gain and lose many points every weekend, but if last year... it's true that it wasn't always my fault. But it's true also that in more than one situation, if I had waited, I would not have crashed, and taking maybe 13 points was enough to win. So I just try to understand that, just try to improve on that."
There were also crashes he just didn't understand, Bagnaia said. "It's also difficult to predict sometimes the times that I crashed, because I lost the front many times when I was calm, so like in Barcelona last lap, like in Malaysia. So it's something that it's also not easy to understand, but I will try."
Bagnaia emphasized that working with his team was key. "What I said before, it's not that the team have to improve, but we have to improve as a team, in some situations. And I think it's not something that we have to search, it's something that has to come easily just doing our job, and not being under pressure sometimes, just working like normal, and everything will be easier, absolutely."
Communication, key to working as a team, was one of the major changes Gigi Dall'Igna had made when he came to Ducati at the end of 2013. One of the first things Dall'Igna had done was rotate engineers between race team, test team, and factory. He also rotated engineers between departments, so that each department - engine, chassis, suspension, electronics, etc - understood each others' problems. He created a culture where communication was a central pillar of Ducati's MotoGP efforts.
That culture was the biggest difference that Marc Márquez had noticed when he moved across from Honda. "Of course I was ten years with Honda and yeah, the engineers are the engineers, they're top level. But one of the most important things is the communication, and at Ducati I think is the biggest difference, that communication. Not only between engineers. Between race track and factory, but also between riders, team manager, they are in contact and they want to know what you are doing." Márquez added this is easier to achieve when a factory is successful. "But of course then if the performance is good in the race track, then everything flows in a better way."
Can Gigi Dall'Igna make everything flow in a better way in 2025? It sounds like the step from the GP24 to the GP25 will be more modest. "I like to take risks, but you have to be smart in taking risks," the Ducati Corse boss said during the launch. And that was what it looked like at the test after the last race in Barcelona in November 2024: a few updates, but nothing radical.
But they will have a lot of new parts, even if those parts are not major updates. "We have so much material," Dall'Igna said. "We have a new swingarm, a new chassis, a new fairing, a completely new one. We've also changed the ride-height device a little bit, we have something new to experiment with in this respect." Ducati's ride-height device is already the most sophisticated on the grid, requiring a mass of plumbing, so an update there is worrying for the opposition.
Ducati's real advantage is in the amount of data they have, and in how they can process it. During the presentation, a lot was made of the partnership with Lenovo, and their use of AI. Ducati has often entered into strategic partnerships to help push their MotoGP project forward, rather than just taking sponsorship money, and Lenovo is very much in this category.
At the presentation, Lenovo's President of Intelligent Devices Group, Luca Rossi, spoke with pride of how Lenovo process 100GB of data every weekend from each bike, collected from over 50 sensors. It is interesting that these exact same numbers were used in a Lenovo press release at the 2024 launch, and also in a previous story in 2023, suggesting that these are left intentionally vague rather than highly precise numbers. Precise numbers might give a little too much of the game away.
But these are still very large datasets, and that makes them very useful for feeding into AI engineering models, to extract patterns and quickly understand what is working, what isn't, and how to improve. AI is too much of a blanket term, spanning the gamut of chatbots producing factually incorrect low quality texts, renders of motorcycles with three front brake calipers and crash bars that turn into exhausts, artificial voice overs of videos, identifying and inventing new medicines and chemicals, and producing engineering structures that bear loads incredibly efficiently.
Analyzing the data collected by racing motorcycles is an ideal use for AI. Engineering models can analyze vast quantities of data and identify exactly where a particular motorcycle is losing time. They can identify improvements in setup, in engine settings, even in riding styles.
Ducati have been using special software to analyze tire wear and load for several years now, and in the past couple of years have also been using AI to analyze rider body position. All this takes a lot of computing power, and the knowhow to manage and optimize it. This is where companies like Lenovo and NetApp come in.
This is one of the areas where Ducati is making the difference, as their performance in 2024 made clear. Ducati were the only factory to understand how to consistently extract the full potential from Michelin's new rear tire. That was in part because they had more bikes on the grid, and so more data from those bikes. But they also had the capability to process and analyze that data, and ultimately extract more performance from the tires and the bikes.
When fans and journalists complain of the increasing role technology plays in determining the outcome of races, they usually mean the bikes themselves. But increasingly, technology is giving the teams an advantage in the garage, before the bikes even exit pit lane.
But the rider is still the biggest part of the performance equation, Pecco Bagnaia insisted. "I think it's like a 70/30 percentage, I think 70% by humans and 30% by technology," the Italian said. "Because it's true that we need technology, Lenovo is helping us a lot on developing technology to improve on the data side. But the one who will take the results, who will take the points are the humans and the engineers."
Technology and data are useful, but they are tools in the hands of the people involved in racing, both riders and engineers. "The engineers are working day and night at home. They are working day and night in the race weekend. We are working every day to be the best athletes possible, and we have to finalize the results," Bagnaia said. "So it's a complementary job and I think humans still are a big part of it, and this is the main thing and it’s the most fascinating thing about our work, our job."
Marc Márquez agreed. "In the end, of course, the technology is super important. But I will say that it is a big help for the humans involved. In the end, the humans take the decisions. So yeah, Ducati Lenovo team have super good technology, but in the end they are humans. The bike has super good technology, but in the end, the riders are humans. So it’s a big help, but the last decision is always in your hands."
Watch the double interview with Pecco Bagnaia and Marc Marquez below:
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Comments
Can’t wait!
No question it is THE team-in stature, comparable with the MM93/JL99 Repsol Honda squad-and they will absolutely dominate matters. But I’m still intrigued as to what the world champion-and especially Aprilia-may be able to bring, also Digi and Quartararo. KTM’s effort is shrouded in doubt but there’s no question they’re stacked with talent. So yep, pretty excited about, well, everything really…!
I agree that Bagnaia won't…
I agree that Bagnaia won't be steamrolled by Marquez. But he might be used as a berm.
In reply to I agree that Bagnaia won't… by spongedaddy
That...
might be the funniest thing I've read all day.
Nice work.
That said...don't discount Pecco
In reply to That... by nh_painter
Bagnaia will put up a good…
Bagnaia will put up a good fight and may even win the championship. But Marquez in the red, riding the red? What could possibly go wrong? My guess is that at some point during the season visible cracks will form in the facade of team harmony, which may even crumble to the floor. Marquez is a power player that likes to play with the limit on and off the track. When in the flow, his mind can become possessed by the red and run a little hot. A competitor here a competitor there, they are bumped off the track scattershot. Will we see one of those media debriefs with Marquez justifying his on track behavior while wearing that Joker smile? Quartararo may carry the moniker "El Diablo," but Marquez wearing red for the Ducati factory team looks like the devil in waiting to me.
In reply to Bagnaia will put up a good… by spongedaddy
Completely agree
I couldn't have said it better. There's more to go wrong than right.
I hope Gigi was very careful in what he wished for.
In reply to Bagnaia will put up a good… by spongedaddy
Different parameters
Anyone who thinks Marc is gonna do what he did at Honda at Ducati doesn't understand the organizational chasm between the two. HRC has kind of been a joke since Marc arrived; Ducati is a much better run organization. Gigi is clearly in love with Marc but I think is more in love with his motorcycle and how Ducati Corse operates. That's not going to change. Marc is just a new employee at the company and will generally be treated as such.
In reply to Different parameters by CTK
I think the fact that,…
I think the fact that, currently, it's an all Ducati show means that Ducati do not have to back the winning horse. If things go as expected they cannot favour one rider as their best chance to defend the title against another manufacturer. At HRC, Marc often had the Yamahas or Ducati breathing down his neck in the points. HRC had to back the best rider.
In reply to That... by nh_painter
Funny?
More accurate, I'd say.
Immovable object meets unstoppable force
These might be the two most level headed even keeled guys on the grid so ironically seeing how team dynamics play out will be interesting. These guys are experienced professionals who have learned from mistakes of the past so I'm looking forward to see what they do and how (or if) they work together.
They are getting along…
They are getting along swimmingly, the drama is coming from elsewhere and might be regarded as noise. Big credit to Pecco. Both these two are very bright good people. Pecco has learned a great deal from Rossi, including something he is intent upon doing very differently.
No one is even in 3rd at this point. I need to keep aware that I overestimate Marc, and have let the slow rising Pecco miss some regard for his speed and skill. He HAS though made his mistakes on Saturdays and Sundays throwing points to others.
Very much looking fwd here too, and already enjoying the show. Off to a nice start.
Is paddock talk now that Yamaha are on the gas? "Someone said someone said" that.
:)
Alonso? New Moto3 bikes?
We have talked about David Alonso a bit, but perhaps this juncture is a time to do so. Are we to say not if but when will he drop his booster rocket and leave mortal orbit? Looks it from here.
Moto2 Rookie season performance is a strong indicator of rider trajectory. Yes, there are exceptions (Raul 2nd, Quarty 13th etc). But...Marquez 2nd, Acosta and Bagnaia 5th. Marini and Bezz 23rd. Binder 8th, DiGi 9th, Morbidelli 11th, etc. Alonso, where do you expect him to be? 6th maybe? That not only sends him to MotoGP, but puts him in great company.
The adaptation to these bikes can be tough, big jump. How pleased are you with the current Moto3 bike platform for our lightweights? I am not attached to this 250 dirt bike single in the slightest. Dorna isn't either, planning a change to a single make 500cc parallel twin soon. Bit heavier, up from 50HP to 75. I am certainly open to it. The bike that arises could be a gem. Confession, I ride my 400cc twin way more than my Supersport, such fun! Closer to a kart track bike, but all these lightweights are. Hard to know if this becomes a Ninja 500 spec class or more a mirror of the Moto2 engine supply, but guessing closer to the former w chassis modification.
We've discussed the engine preference here over the yrs, and 500cc twin was a favorite. What say you now that it is emergent?
Linked consideration, Alonso may likely come to MotoGP in 2027 on a good bike. Isn't that a promising moment to do so with the 850cc change? I like this kid in every way. Smart, fast as fook, great temperament, likeable. Not niched a pack rider, lots of poles. Relaxed and smiling.
Yep, moto swooning and looking fwd.
In reply to Alonso? New Moto3 bikes? by Motoshrink
“May you live in interesting times”
It seems all around the world we are being given a salutary lesson in why that hoary old Chinese saying is considered a curse, with Motogp (and associated classes not escaping unscathed.
Yes, not a fan of Moto3. The machines hold no interest whatsoever and require a specialist set of skills….and a teeny tiny stature.The longed for test-bed for a plethora of manufacturers to develop advanced single cylinder machines, assisting and transferring that knowledge into bigger, race/real world machines just hasn’t eventuated.
KTM (or their racing subsidiary) have taken wasting money to new levels of absurdity: with no large capacity sportsbike in their array, they seem to be racing in Motogp to develop single cylinder technology for their Moto3 and chook chasing efforts.
500cc twins? I like the fact most countries have related/similar classes (unlike Moto3), and people of larger than whippet stature can truly compete. I can see some older expert riders having some fun while assisting/pushing youngster development.
Not a fan of that parallel twin sound though…can we stipulate they have 270deg cranks?
Interesting you call your Ninja 400 a lightweight, at 168kg it is the same weight as my old CBR954RR (thank you Baba-san, you “done good”!) from back in the day (20 years ago…when the hell did THAT happen!). Weird how far we haven’t come…hp numbers have gone through the roof while machine weights have stagnated. Anti-pollution only explains so much, the gear isn’t that heavy. I just think cheap = heavy and cheap sells bikes, especially st that end of the market. All the same, Ducati’s monococque superbike “frame” (basically just an airbox the engine hangs off) would be a perfect weight AND cost reduction format for smaller bikes but development seems locked in the 90’s.
In reply to “May you live in interesting times” by Seven4nineR
^ Well said 749 friend…
^ Well said 749 friend. Yesterday watched a dive into the Aprilia Mille, which included that the chassis was a development of their 250GP. But my how different those handle! (Unfortunately big twins bore the snot out of me though).
For sure the new Moto3 will have a 270 degree if indeed they go 500cc parallel twin. Sounds like there are at least 2 of us good w it? If they replicate Moto2 w a spec supersport ish build of engine supplied to bespoke bikes, count me happy. If it is a spec BIKE and a production platform, count me apprehensive. If in the middle of those, modified race chassis? That should be good too methinks.
Cheers mate! Happy lunar new year, "wood snake" is one of great transformation. Some old things to come apart, and we have to be willing to let ourselves shed and transform too.
In reply to ^ Well said 749 friend… by Motoshrink
Shed and transform
”Happy lunar new year, "wood snake" is one of great transformation. Some old things to come apart, and we have to be willing to let ourselves shed and transform too.”
Aaaaah, so that’s what is what I’m seeing when I (reluctantly) look in the mirror: “I’m shedding baby! I’M SHEDDING!”
Yes, spec engine with bespoke chassis would be ideal.
For those, like me, wondering about costs in Moto3? I found this:
“- The maximum price for a complete rolling chassis will remain at €85,000.
- As part of the engine package, each manufacturer will only be required to supply three gearboxes sets per two-rider team.
- Each team will be permitted to rent a maximum of two additional sets of gearboxes at the capped price of €2.500 each.
- A Maximum of six engines per rider, for the season will be permitted. However, a manufacturer can choose to allocate five engines per rider, for the season.
- Manufacturers can continue to charge the Championship €60,000 per entry for engine supply whether the allocation is five or six engines per rider.
Throw ECU/electronics and the rest of the ancillary bike bits, crew/logistics, crash damage, and it’s a VERY big number to run a season in the lowliest class.
I also listened to our/Dave’s friends Mat Oxley/Peter Bom while travelling for work. They were talking to the legendary crew chief Livio Suppo who confirmed Honda/KTM are losing money on every single bike.
It all adds up to something completely unsustainable, with barriers to participation for both manufacturers and competitors.
So yeah, given the law of diminishing tuning returns (the FIRST +10hp cost $10k, the LAST +1hp cost $10k) a nice hot but not too hot 80hp 500 would cost what? 1/3? 1/4? of a Moto3 engine (60hp) with much more torque.
I’d love to know where the €85,000 euro rolling chassis number came from, it seems crazy expensive. I mean, you can buy a complete ready to race Suter MMX500 for €140,000……oooh….there’s an idea!!!
That's a lot of red...
Marquez' red mist...on a red bike...yikes. Will there be friction, yes...does he care...doubtful. He is wired only one way...win at all costs. But Dorna will save money on fireworks ;)
Pecco is so funny..
Pecco talking about lost points in 2024.." if I would not lost 11 points here I would be a champion...". O cmon, if Martin and Pecco would be closer in points Martin would not be in point saving mode last few races...weird logic by Pecco ( ego hurt to much I guess ).
As for Marc/Pecco Ego clash in garage...that will depend how close they will be in 2025. I dont think Pecco has any less Ego and drive then Marc. There was just nobody around strong enough untill now, to pull out his true colors.
One thing is for sure...drama is back! Lol
2025
It will not be pretty, Ducati will need to make a clear choice, nobody will be comfortable