It's that time again, when the motorcycle racing world slows down and, in Europe and the US at least, everyone involved takes some time off to celebrate the holiday season. This year, that has been harder than usual for some, as KTM's bankruptcy protection proceedings have hit the people working there, and caused a stir among fans and media. The good news is that KTM will continue to race in MotoGP, at least for 2025.
But it is also time for MotoMatters.com to take a break. It has been a tough year for me personally, with the death of my mother and the mountain of bureaucracy that generates. So much so that I fell ill after the season finished, and am only now back on my feet again after a couple of weeks of illness.
So it's also time to thank you, dear readers, for following MotoMatters.com. Your support and kind comments have been enormously appreciated (and all read, though not responded to as often as I should). A very special thank you to everyone who has supported the site by either taking out a subscription or backing us on Patreon.
This website only exists thanks to the financial support of readers. So if you want to ensure that MotoMatters.com can continue into the future, or you have appreciated our reporting over the past year, you can make a huge difference to keep us going. You can join the community by becoming a subscriber, or support us through Patreon. You can also make a one-off contribution through Ko-fi, our GoFundMe page, or through Paypal. Every little bit helps!
The website will be taking a break until early January. Unless something massive happens (such as a factory withdrawing or a rider swapping teams) there will not be much happening on the website, beyond community chat. We will be back in a couple of weeks.
Thanks again, happy holidays, and a very happy and healthy 2025. Here's to a new year full of exciting motorcycle racing!
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Holiday Break
David,
Thanks for your stellar work here, it's so very much appreciated.
Enjoy your break to the fullest!
Nick
Thank you David...
... for your tireless work and dedication. I am better informed and educated every time I leave this site as a result of your reporting and the excellent input from my fellow Mutterers who I must also thank for their wisdom, knowledge and humour. The podcasts make my walks even more enjoyable than just savouring the beauty of Ireland and I find myself adding on many kilometers in order to avoid turning a podcast off.
I hope you, and your wife, enjoy however you choose to spend your time and look forward to a resumption next year.
To the Mutterers, have a great one and see y'all in '25.
Best Wishes,
Brendan.
Happy Holidays, David.
Happy Holidays, David.
Happy Holidays
Thank you for your work throughout the season in keeping us readers informed (and listeners to the podcasts, which I really enjoy). We appreciate the time and effort you make and your excellent writing skills. You make MotoGP better with all the information given.
Best wishes for rest and recharging and Happy Christmas and New Year.
What the others said
Merry Christmas and a Happy & Prosperous (and less stressful!) New Year to you.
Just renewed
Just renewed, thanks for your excellent work! We can tell you’re run down as your voice sounds different, maybe due to your dealing with the lurgy. I hope you can enjoy some well deserved rest. I find cleaning or attending to any part of my bike during the darkness of winter improves my mood. Best wishes from the darkness of Canada!
And from…
…the sunshine and warmth of Australia.
In reply to And from… by Rusty Trumpet
seconded
though it's more Scorched Earth than 'warm'
Thanks and best wishes David…
Thanks and best wishes David to you and yours...the same for all mutterers...mutteres ? Mutterings ? Mutteret...
....searched 'people who mutter' on google, I have bad news,
"Mental Health Conditions: There are some cases where talking to yourself can be a sign of a mental health condition. Muttering and speaking random sentences out loud could be a sign of schizophrenia."
Bugger.
Happy Holidays !
In reply to Thanks and best wishes David… by WaveyD1974
To coin a phrase...
You may be right...I may be crazy.
Thanks all. Appreciated.
Thanks all. Appreciated.
Another year spent muttering away
And I wouldn't want to do it anywhere else!
Enjoy a well earned break
Thanks to David for his tireless work keeping us informed and entertained, and to all the mutterers enjoy whatever break you are having, I know I am looking forward to next year as it seems it will be anything but boring!
Happy Holidays!
Thank you David, Zara, and the rest of the MM crew for your hard work, and thanks also to the Mutterers for your wise and civil comments. MotoMatters is one of a handful (actually less) of websites which I support financially, and one of the best communities online.
Happy Holidays!
Enjoy your time off, and I look forward to more great content in 2025. Cheers
Warmness and stingyness from Yorkshire
Well, we like it grim oop 'ere but a big thank you to you David and your team from the shortened tips of my fingerless gloves (really!). Whether this particular forum and the human make up was designed, or simply happened through evolution, it's an absolute pleasure to debate and flail around on here; there's always something interesting from someone, and the catalyst of that is always your insightful, considered and entertaining features. We can debate from opposite views without anybody 'seeing their arse,' praise MM93 without a dozen boring 'crash' comments, we can mention VR46 without a dozen 'fanboy' insults: hell, it's a special place and you should be proud.
I actually have in the back of my mind how good it would be to return to my hotel after a GP and encounter your good self, or one of the team, or even one of the contributors-me & Apical nearly met up in, I think, Loughboro' a while ago but we just missed each other. I do feel the world-wide contact we all share shouldn't be ever taken for granted. Compliments of the season to you all, but particularly to you sir and your family: tough times don't last, brilliant writing though, fortunately, most certainly does..
Thank You For Another Inspiring Year, David
Your writing and the posts from other writers, reporters, photographers, and subscribers reveal the dimensions of this sport most of us would be challenged to find in another online resource: Truly, what matters in moto at this level of the sport. Enjoy your downtime (and find more during The Season, too!)
Cheers,
Greg
Honda V3 nerdy info…
Honda V3 nerdy info. Something to chew on during the offseason (and discuss with those other muttering voices in the head).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD0l3dOD18U
In reply to Honda V3 nerdy info… by spongedaddy
He had me...
until the ad at the end. I guess everyone has to pay the bills.
If anyone can do it, Honda can. [thumbsup]
In reply to He had me... by nh_painter
I used to think that
...about HRC...!
A top 2024 year.
Thanks to all.
Happy Holidays, David! Rest…
Happy Holidays, David! Rest up and we’ll be there with you next season.
You are the REAL side of MoroGP
Take a well deserved break David. You and your team are the only real, unfiltered, and knowledgeable analysts and commentators I hollow and support.
Thank you. 🙏🏻
St Stephen, you here?
Q: do you play guitar by chance? Ever used CAGED to emulate Bob Weir? Making the complex simple is elegant eh?
https://youtu.be/inky7XvvWYU?si=5q6fcQxfPEe5da4B
Winterconnection, I'm off Shrink duty for a while. But watching LOTS of moto schtuff and still in the zeitgeist, esp focused on Supersport (bye bye R6, hello R9 = betcha the bike arrives at the front!). Again, this is THE class paving the way for the future, leaving chaos to land on the feet of tomorrow both on track and sales floors. RC990 won't have enough power, new Duc will pull off a coup via playing w rules. And Honda's V3 will arrive 2026 to do something wild!
Enjoy recuperating Mr Emmett
Yup
I am a big music fan, and I am in favor of any system or technique that helps someone become more proficient. However, that being said, my musical skill peaked when I played the recorder in 3rd grade. Therefore I long ago decided to listen and appreciate rather than spend maximum time for minimal results creatively.
Lately in addition to GD and related musical paths I have been re-exploring a favorite genre (if it is actually a genre): female rock vocalists...Belinda Carlisle, Debbie Harry, Chrissie Hynde, Linda R, Linda Thompson, Bonnie Raitt. And one of my current favorite bands, Tedeschi Trucks. Just an amazing vocalist next to that stellar slide guitar...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M45fhW6iZ0g
Anyway, we're already at 25 inches of rain here in Sonoma County since October 1st, impressive even when held to PNW standards, so instead of putting miles on the bikes I'm just checking the local track day schedule updates to see if there is a Laguna Seca appearance this year. And wondering if Pecco can really win his third in 2025.
Cheers!
In reply to Yup by St. Stephen
https://www.youtube.com…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEigMevY_tY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76gL_L1Vsp0&list=PLSdYKF2T5EuiZehwOOTMkiu9MlHfd0WES&index=106
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB4JDJiet5M&list=PLSdYKF2T5EuiZehwOOTMkiu9MlHfd0WES&index=113
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0rbw3UMB_U&list=PLSdYKF2T5EuiZehwOOTMk…
In reply to Yup by St. Stephen
Bon apetite!
Yes mate! Me too on those very bands, esp Linda Rondstat early on. Also been in proto and post punk. Buzzcocks as I type.
Marc vs Pecco will be brilliant next season. A couple other manus are going to get their kettle on the boil as well, perhaps with an unlikely rider like Zarco or Ogura. Looking fwd to the intrigue of Martin and if Aprilia are able to step forward again. Curious if we have a surprise awaiting in someone like DiGia too!
Bon apetite!
(^ That Peter Day mix has gems, thanks! Listening now - Wintertainment goodness)
In reply to Bon apetite! by Motoshrink
Coincidentally, like St…
Coincidentally, like St. Stephen, I have been listening to a lot of female rock and bluesy musicians of late. And funk.
In reply to Bon apetite! by Motoshrink
You Can Do A Lot Worse...
... Than the Buzzcocks. If you want proto, how about some Crushed Butler: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Boca9uyKvQw , or the MC5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yYeP9Lxm5c .
In reply to Yup by St. Stephen
Loving this
Cheers St. Stephen, I've just discovered another great band. The guitar and vocals are great, and in the live show you linked to, the drum "duo" starting around 1:07:00 is briliiant!
I'm a wannabe percussionist but can't play an instrument to save my life. I absolutely love listening to music though :)
Best wishes
for 2025👍 I wish you all good health, happiness and a thrilling 2025 MotoGP season
In reply to Best wishes by Riesjart
+1
To what Riesjart said. Best wishes to all for a happy and prosperous New Year.
Sponge Sr did, and so in my…
Sponge Sr did, and so in my kindest share of Yroundtainment I will too -
This playlist is the best I have to share methinks, will be growing....
Motoshrink on Spotify (yep, only moniker out there), HUG!
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3BvyVoxUXGk797iSeGdv3r?si=OD8ci-yLRUW…
In reply to Sponge Sr did, and so in my… by Motoshrink
Thanks for sharing,…
Thanks for sharing, Motoshrink.
On another note, do you ever consult with clients via zoom, or only in person?
In reply to Thanks for sharing,… by spongedaddy
I do a mix of in person and…
I do a mix of in person and by phone, incl happy to do pro bono confidential consults w folks (phone call usually).
v I see riders' numbers all the time too! Daily, hot water goes in the french press and I look at the time to remember when it will be ready. "Started at Mir, will be done at Rossi."
:)
Authenticator challenges
Completely off-topic everything. My company has this prompt for authentication that puts up a 2-digit number that you have to key into your phone to confirm that it's you trying to sign in. I'm always trying to think of riders with those numbers when it comes up :D. Does anyone else have this?
(I can't get it to show the image inline. The only option is to insert via URL, the upload from computer option says I'm not authorised)
OT...more music
Back when I sort of followed David Emmett's Twitter feed I recall him posting a bunch of musical preferences (some quite off the wall) so maybe this is not so off topic. Anyway.
Shrink: Don't avoid Belinda and the GoGo's if you are a punk fan. Yeah, Vacation and Our Lips are Sealed cemented their reputation as a cute girl group, but their origin is heavy punk. They kick butt. Live at The Greek:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBFKcE8lb4c
Sponge: thanks for the links! Good listening.
dewang: It's great when musicians finally sell enough tickets to afford some back-up singers and...two drummers! That was a great set, fun when it's a musical conversation between two folks playing the same instrument (like Kreutzmann and Hart, but I digress). And while a world does not exist where I am a big Harry Styles fan, Sign of the Times is for me the peak of this live concert. Glad you liked Tedeschi Trucks.
I have a Scala headset, but I don't listen to music when I'm riding more than a couple times per year. If there is a flow the right music is already playing in my head.
Cheers Mutterers!
In reply to OT...more music by St. Stephen
Yeah, that song really lets…
Yeah, that song really lets her voice come through. I've never even heard the Harry Styles version so had to go and look it up! For those that want to listen to the Tedeschi version, this is it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRMjcMuO2lI. It's always interesting to listen to cover versions of songs. For instance, this version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJKeNOk3DTI of the already excellent Pearl Jam's Black is great.
With the infinite universes theory there must be one where you're a Styles fan. It might even be the same one where I'm a Rossi fan :D.
I have a headset too, and it depends on the ride for me. I ride on my commute so I always have something on, either music or a podcast depending on the mood.
'Shrink you need to keep to a tight schedule. If you miss Mir and end up starting the brew at Acosta then when will it be done?
In reply to Yeah, that song really lets… by dewang
Last yr, done at Aleix…
Last yr, done at Aleix rather than Rossi...glad Acosta has his 37 back. That was sneaky him running a 31 w just a BIT long of a tick on top.
Orange seemed to miss their mark a bit with their bike after a good 2024 start eh? And now the whole program is cast under a dire cloud of doom. A very sad story!
I tend to see KTM and Aprilia as doing well. Our issue is that Ducati has done TOO well. Really, the rule book and tires have too much red on them.
The Japanese are coming, right? These next two seasons may end up being a bit of an oddity. Marc continuing his rebirth is going to offer much to appreciate. Even Pecco may enjoy the ride, and we get to see what he has in store as well.
Starting to get curious about how the mid pack is lining up...
In reply to Last yr, done at Aleix… by Motoshrink
Shrink...
"Our issue is that Ducati has done TOO well. Really, the rule book and tires have too much red on them."
The only reason the rule book and tires have too much red on them is because Ducati was smart enough to make use of what was afforded them and added the color themselves. I, personally, commend them for their achievement. Maybe the racing has suffered, but not because Ducati was so good, but rather the other manu's were so bad.
Nothing was stopping any other factory from having similar success besides their egos or their pocket book. I think Aprilia is really the only manufacturer hampered by budget. KTM and Yamaha defeated themselves be it by attitude, or being not quite as smart as they thought they were. Take your pick.
HRC...I think we all pretty much understand why that ship floundered.
Feel free to disagree. ;-)
In reply to Last yr, done at Aleix… by Motoshrink
Haha, yeah I meant Acosta's…
Haha, yeah I meant Acosta's true number 37 :)
It will definitely be interesting to see the mid-pack this year. Ducati will definitely have the top few spots sewn up. I'm really looking forward to see what Martin can do at Aprilia. He's the first properly fast rider they've had.
KTM, I don't really have high hopes. They might surprise us with some magic development over the winter but with all that's going on, I'm not holding my breath.
The Japanese are coming but they have a lot of ground to make up. It's probably going to be like last year where they'll improve but the others will also improve so the gap doesn't close.
I'm busy leafing through my Motocourse, whetting my appetite for the first race.
In reply to OT...more music by St. Stephen
They May have Started Out Pretty Raw...
... But the GoGos rapidly grew into a group who could knock out one memorable, hook-filled tune after the other. Good people, too! I saw them many times.
How about a little TG? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhZDP8hkJnU
In reply to They May have Started Out Pretty Raw... by Iamhbomb
+1 Anyone into american…
+1
Anyone into american football?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/31ObehzyYnw